thereivers.net: Are there any unreleased songs or anything new, or any cover songs you’ll be doing at the show, apart from the one you played at soundcheck?
Garrett: Just the one.
John: It’s supposed to be a surprise.
thereivers.net: It’ll kind of be a post-surprise, because it’s not gonna be on the website ‘till later anyway.
Garrett: (laughing) You mean you’re not gonna post it right now?
thereivers.net: Yeah, I’ll run outside and…
Garrett: Before tomorrow morning…you never know…
thereivers.net: So, the new song – what’s it called?
John: “All the Drunks Say Amen”
thereivers.net: Are you going to record it?
John: Maybe eventually.
thereivers.net: You could put it on your MySpace site maybe – Internet-only download or something.
Garrett (to John): Is it on your record that you’re working on?
thereivers.net: Oh yeah, you’re working on a solo record, aren’t you?
thereivers.net: How far along is that?
John: It was…you know, I had done everything and I was gonna get some other people to play on it but I’m not sure what I want to do with it now. We’ll see what the future holds for it.
thereivers.net: Maybe a Reivers album?
(no conclusive answer)
thereivers.net: So, on the radio interview the other day you mentioned that the Zeitgeist name might be re-adopted. Is that a possibility?
Kim: I don’t know if we’re the “spirit of the age” right now…
thereivers.net: Of all the bands you toured with over the years, which ones do you have the fondest memory of?
Cindy: I can’t think of any bands we played with – well, I can only think of one band we played with that we didn’t like – but everybody else was really fun.
Kim: Which one?
Cindy: I won’t say!
thereivers.net: There wasn’t one band, more than any others, that you really enjoyed touring with?
Cindy: It was just a lot of really nice people – the Fleshtones were really nice….Uncle Green…
Kim: Big Dipper
thereivers.net: How about Downy Mildew?
Garrett: They were great.
Kim: Yeah, they were great.
thereivers.net: Are you still producing and engineering, John?
John: Not too much, mostly just doing my day job.
thereivers.net: What are your day jobs?
John: I work at the law school of the University of Texas.
Cindy: I’m an assistant manager at a book store – I’ve been there about 10 years now.
Kim: I teach kindergarten and first grade.
thereivers.net: I had heard about you teaching at a school called the Phoenix School.
Kim: Yeah, Joe McDermott and I started that in 1985, but I don’t teach there.
thereivers.net: Garrett, you do something with computers, right?
Garrett: I do software quality assurance and test Internet applications to make sure they work the way they should.
thereivers.net: Garrett and Kim, you haven’t been involved much with music at all since the breakup of the Reivers. Do you ever wish you had stayed with music as a career instead of doing something else?
Garrett: No, I mean, I miss it, but I also enjoy the fact that I can pay the mortgage. But, I‘ve definitely missed it and I enjoy doing it. Even before we started talking ideas, I was trying to find somebody to start something. It started about a year ago when I saw Cindy at the Dog and Duck and we started talking and it was like “You wanna start a band?”
thereivers.net: So it was good timing for the Reivers reunion.
Garrett: Yeah, I was definitely itching to start a band – and I didn’t have to learn hardly any new songs!
thereivers.net: How come you took so long to reunite?
Cindy: People hadn’t really started dying off…
Kim: I don’t think we were ready too, I think it happened now because we were ready to.
Cindy: I personally needed the kick in the pants of seeing my friends die – people in my peer group. I wanted to start doing things that I wanted to do, like “hey, let’s put the Reivers back together for a reunion show!” I mean, I don’t want to die and not have stuff taken care of like that…it seemed important.
thereivers.net: Yeah, it’s important to a lot of people, I mean, tonight’s show sold out in less than 24 hours, so it’s obviously important to a lot of people.
John: It’s very humbling.
thereivers.net: So I guess you were pretty surprised?
thereivers.net: I know I’ve been getting lots and lots of emails through the website since the reunion was announced.
thereivers.net: Do you have any personal favourite Reivers songs or albums?
Kim: I don’t know about albums – um, I really love the first one and then Saturday…I like them all really.
thereivers.net: Any particular songs?
Kim: I really love “Translate Slowly”, “Baby”. I’ve got a lot of favorite songs.
Garrett: I think actually my favourite record was Saturday, but I like them all.
thereivers.net: I think Saturday’s got a real cohesiveness to it – the songs flow together really well.
Garrett: I really couldn’t tell you why, but if I had to pick one that would be it.
Kim: It was a really good time, too- everything was just wonderful. And writing all those songs was great.
Garrett: Well, a lot of that record was there from the beginning as well.
Garrett: We did the first set of songs, but we were already doing a lot of the stuff that ended up on Saturday. I guess what I’m saying is, I don’t look at it like we finished the first record, then we wrote a bunch of new stuff and went into the studio again. I mean, it was like the first few years we were just doing this stuff and we put one set on the first record and then a large amount of songs on the second record we’d been playing almost since the beginning.
thereivers.net: And you had a lot of notoriety going into the second release too.
Garrett: Till we changed our name!
John: I really like the song “Baby”…”Dragonflies” is another one – I like that one a lot. I like “Pop Beloved” a lot…I don’t know if that’s my favourite, but it’s got character.
Cindy: Yeah, I think that’s my favourite album.
thereivers.net: Any favourite songs?
Cindy: There’s some songs I really don’t like…
thereivers.net: Ah, what are they?
Cindy: I won’t tell you what they are! (laughter)
thereivers.net: I’m sure we won’t be hearing those tonight…
Cindy: No, you won’t. I put my foot in and… (band laughter)
Cindy: I like “Translate Slowly” a lot, the song. You look out in the crowd and everybody’s singing and you understand why big rock acts step back from the microphone and let the crowd sing because it’s really…
Cindy: Yeah, really neat.
thereivers.net: I’ve often wondered about the leftover Pop Beloved tracks, I mean, there’s something like 9 or 10 songs. Have you ever thought of releasing them?, because they’re really good songs.
Kim: Like what?
thereivers.net: Let’s see, what are some of them?… “So Exciting”…
Kim: Yeah, that was a really good one!
thereivers.net: “In My Neighborhood” – I always liked that one a lot.
Kim: I don’t even remember that one!
thereivers.net: (sings a little)
Kim: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah…
John (coming back into the interview): We had leftover songs?
thereivers.net: Yeah, there were quite a few that have circulated in the trading circles.
John: Oh yeah, like “Tell Me So”… those were mostly abandoned. There’s one that I don’t think we even got to the demo stage which I would like to redo…
Cindy: Which one?
John: Uh, it was originally called “What’s My Job?” I was working on the song and my daughter walked in the room and I said “How do you like that?” and she said “I like it! Is that called “What’s My Job?” So I said, “It is now – do you want to sing it?” So she sang “What’s my job and I sayyyyy, What’s my job and I sayyyy”….
Garrett: I think you should tell that story from stage tonight!
thereivers.net: How about a good story or two from the old days, maybe a road story?
Cindy: I think that’s something…I think we should sit around a table with a bottle of rum or something and…talk.
Garrett: Maybe that’s not such a good idea…(band laughter)
John: I would be into that, but the recorder would not be there.
Kim: So what kind of story do you want? Like the worst night or our lives or?
thereivers.net: Sure! What was the worst night of your life?
Kim: The whole thing in Bethesda when we lost our transmission, that sucked really bad.
Garrett: Yeah, it did – the first few tours we took, something would go catastrophically wrong. I remember thinking “Are we ever gonna be able to do one of these without something major happening?” ‘Cause like, one, we went and we took two cars and we had a wreck. We had to return in a Tercel – all four of us and all our gear…in a Tercel.
Kim: But we did have…
Garrett: Yeah, we did have a U-haul on top that we got through some friends in Atlanta.
Kim: The backseat of that Tercel had one person on either side, with all our guitars stacked underneath our feet and a whole big drum between us.
Kim: The driver’s seat was all the way forward and John drove it a lot and it was really really cold. His forehead began touching the window. He was going “My…hair…is…touching…the…windshield”.
Garrett: It was freezing outside and the window was fogging up…
thereivers.net: Was that the story where you were scrapping the ice off the inside of the windshield with a cassette case?
Cindy: No, that was a different one. That was when we discovered that the van we were in actually had a heater
Garrett: But it wasn’t plugged in…
Kim: Oh my God…
Garrett: The heater worked, we just didn’t know how to work it.
thereivers.net: What about the one where you had to sing the song to the state troopers in Pennsylvania to prove you were in a band?
Kim: Oh yeah, “Hey cowpunches”
John: Hey cowpunches
Garrett: The second tour we took in a station wagon was when the transmission went out in Bethesda, Maryland. Oh my God, that was bad. It was a rough tour. It was our first real whole east coast tour and we weren’t making a lot of money. We slept one night in a rest stop in South Carolina somewhere. We’d sleep on people’s floors when we could. But, we were finally getting to the last stretch of it – we were getting ready to go home and we get in the car and it won’t go into gear. I think it would only go in reverse.
thereivers.net: So you’d have to drive backwards the whole way home.
John: We probably considered it.
Garrett: Fortunately, Kim had a credit card with her…
Kim: “Mom? Can I put a transmission on the credit card?”
Garrett: We’d probably still be there if not for that.
Kim: My parents tell this story often.
Garrett: They had to call a bank and get ‘em to approve the amount, because it was, like, $800.
Kim: I think it was $500, but still a lot of money.
Garrett: So we spent all day waiting for the transmission to get done and when it was done we were like “We’re going home.”
John: I think we had a few more shows and we cancelled them and just drove home.
thereivers.net: Things could only have gone uphill from there.
Garrett: Yeah, well…
Kim: And then we found that cat for Melissa.
Kim: Remember that cat in Bethesda?
John: I thought that was the shorter tour. That was the long tour?
Kim: That was on the way home.
Cindy: Oh, that’s right!
John: Of course!
Cindy: Everything bad happened in Bethesda.
Garrett: The cat puked all over the floor.
Kim: Good times!
thereivers.net: What were the best times?
Kim: The best times?
thereivers.net: Yeah, were there any certain really good shows?
Cindy: Practicing again after 16 years has been so fun.
Kim: It’s been a blast.
thereivers.net: Do you think you’ll do other shows or recording after this?
Cindy: Certainly not as The Reivers.
John: Yeah, I don’t think we’ll be The Reivers anymore, in my opinion, but we haven’t decided anything yet.
We’re still talking about it.